Posted by: eseeders | September 18, 2009

Feminism and the Conservative Movement

The following is found on the schedule for this years 2009 Value Voters Summit in Washington D.C. Ostensibly, this is a Conservative movement meeting to discuss future plans.

THE NEW MASCULINITY – CONGRESSIONAL A
Dr. Pat Fagan, Senior Fellow and Director, Center for Family and Religion, FRC; Michael Schwartz, Chief of Staff, Senator Tom Coburn (R-Okla.); Dr. Matthew Spalding, Director, B. Kenneth Simon Center for Studies, The Heritage Foundation

Feminism has wreaked havoc on marriage, women, children and men. It is time to redress the disorder it has wrought and that must start with getting the principles and ideals for a new “masculinism” right. Such a “masculinism” will have its dovetailing counterpart in a new “feminism” for they mutually define each other and, in nature, are meant to be complementary. This panel will begin this exploration.

The above was found here

Now read this bit of commentary from Foreign Affairs

Economics of course is not the only reason to fight for the equality of women, but I thought i’d appeal to the conservatives wallets since that appears to be all they really care about. I think the feminist movement has been a wonderful thing, leading to great strides both within our society and elsewhere throughout the world. I myself fully support complete equality for women and indeed everyone no matter the color of their skin, their sexual preference or any other denominator. What does everyone think about the Conservative’s fighting against women’s rights?

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  3. The conservatives are fighting feminism, not women or women’s rights. Why you confuse these things is beyond. I myself believe in equality; but, you’re fooling yourself, if you think feminists believe in it too. A bunch of sexist bigots is all they are, really. Just look at what they say about men. Contrary to what they say, I as a man am not a “biological accident” and nor am I “utterly inferior”. I’m sorry, but supporting feminists on the grounds of equality is akin to supporting the KKK on the same grounds. They’re just another hate movement.

  4. Without the feminist movement, in all likelihood the vast majority of women would’ve remained nothing more than slaves in the kitchen as they do to this day in other parts of the world. Has the movement outlasted its usefulness? Perhaps in the US it may have (thats a debatable point however), though I’d argue that is far from the case in terms of women’s rights elsewhere. Yes there were and are extremist branches of it just as there were in the civil rights movement, but feminism as a whole and the ideas it advocates have been more beneficial than negative not just for women but for society as a whole.

    On top of that, what would you propose as the alternative? Women shouldn’t be dependent on men to stand up for their rights nor do most women I know want to be. If they are dependent on men to give them equality how does that break out of the plutocratic nature of most societies?

  5. What are these benefits to society or men that feminism has brought? You claim it has been benificial; but, to who, and at what costs? All it appears to have brought is bigotry against men. I don’t want women to be dependent on anyone, but themselves. The answer to making society better is supporting everyone, and helping them when they need it. In men’s case, they really need that help right now, and feminists are standing right in the way, declaring it ‘sexist’ to even help men. Every time a men’s group forms in a college, they protest and persecute those that organized it.

    Feminism could help women in Afghanistan; but, they aren’t- the US government is, and the feminists don’t appear to even care. As a matter of fact, feminism could also hurt men there, with the attitudes they have. They’re too biased to help anyone, but women; and, they tend to throw a monkey wrench into gender relations. Again telling Afghani and Pashtun men that they’re “inferior” isn’t going to help anyone, and is only going to hurt lot’s of people.

  6. You make claims without providing the proof. Its fine to have opinions, but they don’t mean much unless you can provide backing for it. You say that feminism is doing nothing in Afghanistan, but how do you know that? I just did a google search for it and right there in the first article is your answer.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/07/09/AR2009070902502.html

    Also, why is it that unless it helps you directly its not worth while? Is it just a common thing among conservatives to be unable to envisage what life might be like in other peoples shoes? The majority of western history has seen women living in servitude occupying a secondary role in our society. Are you suggesting that simply giving them equality is akin to bigotry to men? Or is there perhaps some other proof you’d like to offer? What help do men need exactly? Especially white males who continue to dominate corporate life? By the way, men’s groups are welcome to form privately on college campuses but in order to be sponsored as an official club at most colleges, you have to follow a non discriminatory policy which includes allowing women to join. Privately you can do whatever you damn well please though. Oh and lets not forget the greek fraternity system.

    As to benefits for society did you bother to check out that link I included? Where there is greater equality for women, societies tend to be more prosperous economically and socially. At this point, you cannot separate equality for women from feminism.


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